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Title: Does this explain why socialists are very nice people?

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Registration date: 13/10/2006
Added: 09/12/2007 20:22
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Generosity 'may be in the genes'

Some people may be genetically destined to have a generous personality, Israeli research has suggested.

A total of 203 people took part in an online task in which they could either keep or give away money.

Gene tests revealed those who had certain variants of a gene called AVPR1a were on average nearly 50% more likely to give money away.



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Registration date: 12/05/2007
Added: 13/12/2007 16:53
No, socialists are not the most generous group in society.

"Evangelical Christians give nine times as much to charity as the average householder, donating more than 12 per cent of their net income each year, according to a survey..."
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article784863.ece

"...Arthur Brooks, a top scholar of economics and public policy, has spent years researching this trend, and even he was surprised by what he found. In Who Cares, he demonstrates conclusively that conservatives really are compassionate--far more compassionate than their liberal foes..."
http://books.google.com/books?id=Xa84gLTT8C0C

"... Involvement in communities of faith among all goers collectively is strongly associated with giving and volunteering. Indeed, involvement in religious community is among the strongest predictors of giving and volunteering for religious causes as well as for secular ones. Religious communities embody one of the most important sources of social capital and concern for community in America. Religious people are great at "doing for."
Moreover, religious involvement is positively associated with most other forms of civic involvement. Even holding other factors constant (comparing people of comparable educational levels, comparable income, and so on), religiously engaged people are more likely than religiously disengaged people to be involved in civic groups of all sorts, to vote more, to be more active in community affairs, to give blood, to trust other people (from shopkeepers to neighbors), to know the names of public officials, to socialize with friends and neighbors, and even simply to have a wider circle of friends...."
http://www.cfsv.org/communitysurvey/results2.html

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Added: 13/12/2007 18:08
My child shrink explains 'filters' in our brains that block 'irrelevant' information. Conditioning can strengthen these filters. She said, think of the brain as a garbage bin that needs recycling, the filters decide where to put information so it can be recalled or not. People in constant debt for instance dump the amount of money they owe in a place where the brain 'forgets' about it.

Apparently many teenagers with ADHD have no filters and girls closing on puberty have their filters modified by hormones temporarily until levels stabilise. Ultimately it is the female that can more effectively prioritise information towards the needs of others (children) and males put protection top of their list. Thus females are rarely selfish and will quickly 'drop' talk of war and confrontation issues, simply trying to forget (of no interest).

I seem to retain what others deem as irrelevant detail but I use all these small bits of information to create a reality quite different to many others, friends or acquaintances.

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Registration date: 04/12/2007
Added: 13/12/2007 19:39
Since when were generosity and compassion about how much money one gives away??? Are even the destitute materialistic, these days?

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Added: 13/12/2007 20:01
Not in my limited experience fkj, helping less fortunate people is all about answering their cries for help. Surely an important part of our raison d'etre is a return to the togetherness of the war years when lending a cup of sugar or tea or forming a creche for children whose mothers on war effort was part of life.

These days' people are cocooned in their homes and only people with dogs seem to talk or even look at one another!

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Q:Should the City give more to charity?
A: YES !

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If ever more evidence was needed of the growing gap between rich and poor - and the dangers that poses - it came at last night's Evening Standard London Influentials debate on the City and charity.

On the day that Goldman Sachs revealed a compensation pot estimated at £10 billion, resulting in bonus payouts in London to some employees of £5 million-plus, with chairman Lloyd Blankfein in line for £35 million, a panel drawn from the City and the charity sector assembled at the Tate Modern to discuss what is clearly a burning issue.

Financier John Studzinski, who is donating £5 million of his own money to the Tate Modern's new extension, was joined by Arki Busson, hedge fund operatorand founder of the Ark children's charity (his annual dinner earlier this year raised a world record £28 million) and Lord Griffiths (vice-chairman of Goldman Sachs International, former head of the Downing Street Policy Unit and a firm believer that business must do more to help others).

They were, pointed out fellow panellist, columnist and author Will Self, to ironic cheers, "the good guys". Self said that while he was impressed by their own personal contributions nothing could detract from the paucity of City giving.

The figures make grim reading. This year, according to the Centre for Economics and Business Research, the City will receive £7.4 billion in payouts. But total charitable income in the UK has barely shifted, in real terms, in the last 10 years while, based on the Sunday Times Rich List, the wealth of the richest 1,000 people in the country has trebled.

Last edited by: canvas on 13/12/2007 20:30
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Registration date: 11/01/2007
Added: 13/12/2007 20:56
Im thinking scrubbs that ,the previously mentioned,
"child shrink",could actually be your "dustman".

No way is a mind a "garbage bin".

Humans are designed to forget.

We only remember things of importance to us.(sometimes)


Emotional control is a recently learned trick (by me)
A by product of "medetation".Also Very usefull.
:)
Not a very scientific test was it."C"
A happy result that may or may not indicate something.
Could be the others had more sets of "stingey gene's"
I know places where the above result would not occur.

Just read the article and agree with "fkjegede"
When is "giving away altruism" ? It is not.

Altruism is to sacrifice ones self for the many.

This experiment is an expression of their "tight genes"
Ha Ha .
Gouranga Canvas.

Last edited by: physics911comfan on 13/12/2007 20:59
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Added: 13/12/2007 21:07
“Every man must decide whether he will walk in the light of creative altruism or in the darkness of destructive selfishness.” Martin Luther King, Jr

bada bada bing

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Added: 14/12/2007 16:52
In real experiments they found that,if you where nice to
a rat there was a 50% more likely chance that it would
nice to the next rat it met.(fact)

And adolesent chimps have better memories than
adult humans.Ha Ha.(fact).

:)
Neither are as wise as canvas.

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Registration date: 28/12/2006
Added: 14/12/2007 19:24
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Some people may be genetically destined to have a generous personality, Israeli research has suggested.


Ok, who’s more generous?

The employee who gives a thousand pounds to 'save the children', or his workmate who sets up his own company becomes a multimillionaire and later in his life hands them a check for a million?

Which one possesses the ‘generous gene’?

Now, I’m not saying it’s the latter.
But socialism doesn’t seem to acknowledge that ‘selfish’ capitalism is capable of generating great good, as it creates exponentially more wealth.

Also, what is generosity? Mention was made earlier in the string of evangelical Christians giving lots.

Yet religiously based generosity very often takes the form of something akin to indulgences, whereby one seeks to acquire a extra cushy piece of real estate in the afterlife.

So, are socialists more generous? Rich socialists maybe. But what about poor socialists, whose poverty makes them the apaprent beneficiaries of socialism?

So there we have it. To know the true generosity of people you’d have to be able to glimpse their innermost thoughts, to see into their souls.

No doubt Brown is soon to pass laws on the reglementation of souls and will set targets for their relative generosity…

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