I'm not a Tory supporter, always been in favour of Old Labour economic policies and liberal social policies.
However, since New Labour is neither socialist or liberal, I have to admit to being impressed with Cameron. At least the man is a liberal and not prepared to put up with ID cards, locking people up for months on end without trial etc.
He also has me in fits of laughter every Wednesday when he ridicules Gordon Clown at PMQ's.
Obviously I don't agree with a lot of Cameron's views but I have a lot of respect for him and think he is right on many issues.

welcome markab.
You'll find a lot of like minded people on Webcameron.

Welcome, mark. Just out of interest, who do you think you might vote for at the next general election?

Liberal Democrats probably. Definitely not going to vote Labour unless they get their act together-I was never a fan of New Labour's right-wing policies but Gordon Brown is proving to be worse than Blair. One fiasco after another.
It'll make no difference who I vote for because it's a totally safe Labour seat where I live.
The strange thing is that I talk to people in the local pub who are all Labour voters but have opinions that I'd say are way to the right of Cameron.

My grandmother was a bit like that - she was an Old Labour supporter, but as soon as she got onto subjects such as immigration and crime she seemed to move over to the right of the BNP!

Hi Mark welcome - I agree with your reply to David, my nan once said 'we have to give Brown a chance' OK he's had his chance and I still feel like we are sliding down the slippery slope to facism in a jurk reaction to the brutal censorship of the British way of life.

Our leaders (including captains of industry) seem to be puppets to American desires. I ask, where is the vision? where is a belief the world is changing rapidly? The Internet including the WWW means we are now 'in touch' with each other; it seems a giant black curtain has been lifted and the common man can now see thru the spin and the lies.

This is why I think people say 'Lib Dem' when asked who they will vote for (small mini-poll Oving village)

I mentioned a 'coalition' government to my nan and she said no. no we had one during the war and it didn't work. OK but that was 1940 something and this is the 21st century.

DC is moving in the right direction ie No to ID, 7/7 inquiry' Blair to resign, these are positive markers but DC is still on the ground with 'safe' issues.

I want to know when is he going to take off?

Yes VoteDave, the people I talk to would seem to be more at home voting for the BNP. It's mainly a generational thing though imo-I'm sure that a majority of older Labour voters do not have liberal social views.
I don't think I would agree with many of David's economic proposals; he hasn't really gone into specifics yet so I can't be sure.
However, Cameron's views on ID cards, the 7/7 inquiry, detention without charge limits etc are spot on.
I also agree with him about the EU treaty-there must be a referendum. It's obvious that the treaty is essentially the same as the defunct Constitution. If there was a referendum I might very well vote in favour of the treaty (haven't made up my mind yet.)

There's nothing remotely 'liberal' going on in the Labour Party! :) The won't be getting my vote again.

They won't be getting my vote again either.
So what would the advice be to someone who was a socialist and a liberal?
New Labour is not a Socialist party and, as you say, is not liberal at all.
A Tory government is obviously not going to introduce socialist policies but I like David's liberal views.

Hi markab

welcome :)

We have similar idea's on some things.

canvas;

I am in agreement with you again.:)
could it be im becoming wiser ? :)

I don't think a truly socialist party will ever get into power in the UK. As Ming so nicely put it - it's a choice between being a liberal government or being an authoritarian government (the latter being Labour).

My vote on November 1st was going to David Cameron and the modern Conservative Party. Albeit a very nervous vote.

I think David Cameron offers us the best chance for a better society. But I'm still watching him closely...

A week is a long time in politics? How true.

Yeah, I'm impressed with a lot of what Cameron has said but it's still unclear if the majority of Conservatives agree with him. Maybe they're just putting up with Cameron because he is doing well in the polls. The only reason a lot of Labour members put up with Blair was because he was a vote winner.

mark, I think most Tories are to the right of Cameron and most Labourites are to the left of Blair.
The sensible ones keep their mouths shut and realise the centre ground is the place to be.

Cameron may have an advantage-Blair's rise to power briefly led to a big increase in Labour Party members. It didn't last long though because Blair always gave me the impression that he thought the grassroots of the Party were an annoying bunch who should be ignored as much as possible.

If Cameron's popularity leads to a lot of younger people joining the Conservative Party before the next election then he will have a very strong base of enthusiastic campaigners.
The reason I think youth will be important is because younger people are more likely to share David's liberal social views.
I don't see Brown attracting many former Labour members back to the Party.