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Title: George Galloway and Fidel Castro

joaofowler

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Messages: 43
Registration date: 13/07/2007
Added: 06/11/2007 22:45
I wouldn't be putting this here if I could get a good answer off Galloway. First can I say that I admire a lot about him, but I am lost as to how he so admires Castro!?
Galloway rightly has attacked the invasion of Iraq, but Castro invaded Angola and Cabinda. The rights and wrongs of Angola are not black and white, and I know Unita carried out more than their fair share of atrocities, but let's look at Galloway's hero:
1) Fidel Castro aided the MPLA's stalinist purge of Nito Alves and his followers, this not only resulted in the murder of Alves and his communist followers but swept in many who were totally 'innocent.' Castro's men were active in this.
2) The invasion of Portuguese Congo- aka Cabinda, a Portuguese protectorate, not part of Angola. Here Castro's men invaded a sovereign state recognised by the African Union and crushed it's independece, so that the MPLA could loot the oil. How does this differ from what Bush has done? At least Bush hasn't made Iraq a state of America. Now this oil goes to the US and China, but the people of Cabinda see little of the money.Check out the FLEC website.
3) Without Castro the MPLA and it's obscenely corrupt looting of Angola would have been history in 1975, he has the guilt for the poverty of this country.
I like Galloway, but like Hugo Chavez he needs to drop his friendship with Fidel Castro, because Castro is no better than Mugabe. The problem is the last time Galloway had a real arguement it was with Michael Barrymore!

ThatcherLoyalist

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Messages: 116
Registration date: 23/11/2006
Added: 07/11/2007 13:05
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The problem is the last time Galloway had a real arguement it was with Michael Barrymore!


lol. i like that line :)
perhaps you could sell that to the Labour candidate in Poplar & Limehouse

Votedave

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Registration date: 30/09/2006
Added: 07/11/2007 16:40
If George Galloway can be friends with Saddam Hussein then I'm sure he can be friends with Fidel Castro. :)

I'm no fan of Big Brother but I felt compelled to watch it when George Galloway went in. My politics and his are miles apart but he was fascinating to watch - I was disappointed that Oona King wasn't put in the house as well to spice the programme up a bit.

joaofowler

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Registration date: 13/07/2007
Added: 08/11/2007 12:22
I think Galloway is good for democracy. But on his radio show he cuts people off who argue with him.He attacks people as well eg: Mike Oldfield makes a right wing speech, so he attacks not just his oppinion but Oldfield the artist as well. When Barrymore was allowed to carry an arguement through to it's natural conclusion he won.
I'll say another thing for David Cameron, you can say what you like about him on his website, and I slag him off as much as the next person, you can't on comrade Galloway's.
From what I know about Angola in 1975 the Portuguese wanted an election, and people thought that Savimbi would get 45% of the vote, and the rest would be split between the pro-American FNLA and the pro-Soviet MPLA. That is why the MPLA attacked Savimbi's UNITA, because they knew they would lose and that the two other parties would together get a majority.Savimbi was popular because a) he was from the biggest tribe and b) he had been leading his resistance from the bush, taking the same risks as his soldiers.(these risks ultimatelty killed him.) Whereas the other two leaders had offices in the Congo. Castro sent the men and the Soviets the arms to start the Angolan civil war, so Castro has the blaim for murdering more people than Bush!Millions through the civil war, which his friend Neto started and directly through the actions of his men. But Galloway fetes Castro saying to the Cuban people 'your leader doesn't rob you' no he's robbed an entire country, why would he need a billion dollars? He's the laird of a whole island! I think he also qualifies as a war criminal.
Galloway denies being a friend of Hussein and says he was praising the Iraqui people, maybe.
The point I'd like to make is it's infantile to say Bush is a devil, so anyone who is against Bush is good, I guess it's what we did when we befriended Stalin against Hitler. I think Galloway has a good role to play in Britain but come on attack all tyrants not just the ones on the other side.

scrubsupwell

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Registration date: 18/11/2006
Added: 08/11/2007 19:08
He survived the 'inquisition' by American senators intent on breaking him with allegations of fraud.

Believe me that is some feat and I admire the man for his performance. But did it make a difference to the administration? yes I think it did - Bush is severely weakened and is being propped up by his fathers contacts. I believe the Bush dynasty is slowly dying but watch out for the 'sting', like a wasp a broken Bush can be lethal.

joaofowler

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Registration date: 13/07/2007
Added: 09/11/2007 10:41
It's true what you say.
It's a shame Michale Barrymore isn't in the US senate.
Galloway is like Hugo Chavez, I admire both but when Chavez goes to Iran or becomes such good friends with Castro I think they lose their credibility.

jonjii

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Registration date: 11/03/2007
Added: 10/11/2007 08:03
I disagree Jao.. I think Galloway is pure self interested poison. I mostly disagree with everything he says.

That being said he has one of the most silver tongues around and would doubtless have me wrapped up so that even the legendary Kaminsky could not get out of.

I am sad that I have to agree with him on Iraq though..We should never have done what we did. However I do not mourn the passing of Saddam.

tonymakara

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Registration date: 28/06/2007
Added: 11/11/2007 15:45
joaofowler, I don't think Galloway can be taken seriously. He is clearly a politician who enjoys the oxygen of publicity, good or bad. His opposition to the Iraq war, which I support, should also be examined in light of his sycophantic support for the Saddam regime.

joaofowler

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Registration date: 13/07/2007
Added: 12/11/2007 12:09
You are both right, I have taken that clown too seriously.

joaofowler

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Registration date: 13/07/2007
Added: 23/11/2007 11:46
I have tried to send Galloway an email via Talksport, the email was refused!

scrubsupwell

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Registration date: 18/11/2006
Added: 23/11/2007 12:49
My father met GG in London in 2005 and warned him of his downfall and a terrible hit on the anti-war movement if he was lying about the Mariam Appeal Trust.

Subsequently Lord Levy damaged the search for truth and the government by his illegal activities.

GG actions in supporting a Palestinian state remember are the force of his wife, Palestinian born, a renowned biologist and a woman, of deep convictions and integrity.

Recently however GG has been in Jordon - Why? he is neglecting his constituency.

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