I have great respect and love for our police force; TVP I know work long hours on a restricted budget.
I revealed in a earlier thread that regular 'bobbies' enjoy little or no communication with counter-terrorist squads(keyword - High Wycombe). They are perceived as above the law and I believe boundaries must be enforced. I believe it is our duty as citizens to demand the resignation of Commissioner Blair who is the interface between 'special' officers and our regular force.
Not only has a young innocent man been murdered, but we, the public have also had our lives endangered by armed men failing to plan and take safety precautions in an operation frought with bad timing, unreliable observations, gung-ho mentality and complete disregard for the well-being of commuters.
Although a factual discourse on their their own
infighting.
I have learnt the hard way that they
are corrupt,violent,arrogant and liers.
As the primary instigator of oppression on the behalf
of tyrants they have become an enemy of common people.
The MET are particuarily brutal as shown by the SPG
now banned.
Driven by stats and targets ,there lot is not a happy one.
That said there are the odd nice coppers.
They are to "protect and serve the common people".
Not illegitemate governments and laws.
Polltax demo's.miners strike,ect
sad days for freedom and justice.
Have any of the new laws and empowerments recieved
cut crime ever . no (often the reverse)
Have any of them seen or read the british constitution
bill of rights ,declaration of independance,magna carter
the coronation oath,ect or studied common law,
so what chance do they have of getting it right then?
It has become an armed parlimentary force.
If only we could talk to them,get them back on our side,
what a better world we would live in.
ps ;
I am only slightly paraniod for haveing said this openly.
this is a very good piece about this issue. I personally don't think he should resign as he wasnt directly in charge of the op and looking back at the tension that existed something like this could always occur, but look at the bigger picture as to why it happened.
I tend to agree, Posh. There seem to be a bunch of dangerous trigger-happy idiots at operational level in the middle ranks that are let loose on unsuspecting Londoners. Blair needs to clean up their act before he does anything else.
The police have been dealing with terrorism and bombs for decades without these debarcles happening ie the IRA campains.
we sorted that out without police sitting on people and shooting them in the head 7 times.
londoners continued as normal through hundreds of bombs.
that msn news is propaganda
like the bbc ,fox,sky ect .
a lack of facts and lots of opinion in my view.
maybe physics but you can't really compare the IRA (who generally phoned bomb warnings) to those that simply blow themselves up in front of people.
The fact stands that they made a mistake and dealt with it incorrectly however they had suspicions, I don't know what his behaviour was on that day. Do you? Were you there?
Yorker - as for having trigger happy officers, from all the testimony they clearly asked superiors what to do before entering the tube (there is a timeline on the bbc news website if you want to follow it) and were told to take him out and therefore simply doing their job.
would you prefer that we never had armed response units to tackle future incidents where suicide bombers are present? because the way this country is going, no sane man would care to enter the firearms unit due to the fact that they merely have to take the firearm from their holster before they are suspended from their job and pulled before a committee to be treated like a criminal. Its totally crazy.
Physics - as for stating that thats propoganda, fair enough but therefore every opinion (including those you have stated) is also merely propoganda too
No, I think it's a training issue. I understand that the Kratos programme involved training with the Israeli police, who are particularly gung-ho and operate in conjunction with the military against terrorist targets. That may be fine in the Palestine-Israel conflict but not in London.
I do state facts and often references for them
on why my opinion is so .
A man with a light jacket (no wires /rucksack/holdall)
is restrained on the floor unable to move.
Is then summerally executed.(ive seen pics)
The official story fell apart,(non factual)
I spent 2 and a half weeks trying to disprove 911 theories
before i formed an opinion.
My first rule is BELIEVE NOTHING.
I would like somethings not to be true,
facts however are truths.They cannot be disproved.
Right - Hold on folks I'll rewind and jog memories:
(1) Remember the falsified log to minimise the Met surveillance culpability, uncovered by the IPCC.
(2) Why did Sir Blair seek to avoid an independent investigation?
(3) Blair condemned his communication system by saying he was NOT told of the Menezes killing until the following day, eh!
(4)Initial reports that Menezes 'was acting suspiciously' were never denied by Sir Blair.
Lastly I will avoid upsetting a still distraught family, by recalling the details, the disbelief, the method, the sickening last moments of Menezes young life.
Thinking back, Blair seems to be a person of poor judgement. I was shocked that he remained unbriefed on the shooting for 24 hours. A man in his position should have demanded an immediate report and hourly updates.
He shouldn't be allowed to resign, he's now sackable.
Oh THAT Blair.... (Sorry, couldn't resist. Old habits die hard and all that)
I came here to post a comment about the actions of Ian Blair in the IMMEDIATE aftermath of the event. But I see "scrubsupwell" has done the job for me about two posts earlier so I'll just say I'm in full agreement on those points and anyone whose organisation is so badly organised so as to let THAT happen in that way cannot be sonsidered to be in control and has to go. Full stop.
The most interesting detail I found in the whole affair was the way the victim was first portrayed as an illegal immigrant who overstayed his student visa and breeached its terms anyway by working illegally and then how that story was quoshed by the revelation that the chap seems to have chosen to pop across to ireland and then come back in order to receive a three month temporary leave to work here. This seems a most interesting little scam and I wonder how he ever found out about it ? Pity they shot the guy beforew they could get an answer to that question, isn't it.
Interesting indeed John, just one step away from your observation is the fact criminals knew that Ireland was a safe haven (no extradition) preventing court hearings from being carried out in the UK. Extradition from Ireland is still confusing to me.
