I heard David Cameron say this morning, on Radio4, that it's against EU law to discriminate in favour of British workers for British jobs. If this is true I don't think the British people yet fully realise, but when the enormity of it hits them stand by for a mighty explosion of fury!

So British taxpayers' money goes into scheme to create jobs and foreign workers breeze in and snatch them, leaving our people on the unemployment scrapheap? Who gave our politicians a mandate for such stupidity?

And is there a leader with balls enough to steer us off this unpatriotic road to hell?

Yorker, I think there is definitely a case, if we are to stay in the EU, that all nations of the EU should get together and look at this issue. Today Britain is the magnet for foreign labour but in the future it may be another country. Sensible limits are they key. I think immigration from the EU should be index-linked to unemployment figures and where a skills shortage exists there can of course be exceptions.

A lot of British Workers whinge about salaries that many foreigners could only dream of.

When you buy something, be it hi fi, cars, dvd recorder etc do you concentrate on where it was made/the ownership of the company?

Or do you concentrate on quality.

Look at the postal strike, many foreigners would dream of earning 17k (or whatever they get paid) for just walking in the rain.

However i do think the main boss getting a large bonus when others that do the real work is insulting. I dont agree with the postal strike.

And i dont think people at the top should get paid what they do. Afterall what do they actually do all day?

They don’t ‘give away’ British jobs to foreigners – every one has been bought and paid for by ‘donations and loans’ to the Labour party. The Conservatives look on with envy and in the hope that one day they too will be able to receive such ‘donations’ just for selling our jobs.

My case is an example of a highly skilled British worker that has had his livelihood destroyed by the home office on instructions from the corrupt Labour party. It’s too late to repair the damage done to me; I’ll never work again. I am far from being alone. I am just one of many thousands.

If Cameron wanted to really do anything to protect us he would be referring the home office’s work permits department to the parliamentary ombudsman, the audit commission, and the police. There needs to be a full audit of all permits granted since 1997 to see which ones are genuine (very few) and which are fraudulent (almost all). However, none of this will happen. Cameron is just milking the immigration to score a few points. He has no interest in British workers at all.

i don't really know a huge amount on this subject but do all EU citizens automatically get an NI card when they move to england or do they have to apply? if they have to apply, can we not set quotas on the numbers that we provide annually? i think i've read somewhere other EU states do this.

as for cameron stating about non-EU citizens, surely this is much easier to police?

I also heard DC on Radio 4 this morning,it was difficult to assertain exactly what he was suggesting should be done. What was clear was the fact that John Humphreys ran circles around him. This is exactly what I feared would happen if he was really up against it. John Humphreys is a forceful interviewer but there are many worse. Most other politicians can cope but DC was left looking weak as if he was critising for the sake of it without coming to the interview with concrete suggestions. I hope he does a lot better next time but I rather fear he has not met many difficulties in his life and it shows

Who would these be averagevoter?

Two recently who I heard Adam Crozier {not a politician as such but the interview was about political issues], Menzies Campbell,and earlier this summer Alistair Campbell and Bill Clinton. The interview with John Bolton was v. good, Bolton came over badly. Some people listen every day but these are some I have heard

And British workers can go and get a much better paying job in Germany.

I really don't know what you have against people who want to come and work here.

What's that got to do with it?

Mrposhman: EU and EEA citizens do not automatically receive a NINO (National Insurance number) but will automatically qualify for one once they have registered for either a job, jobcentre, or benefits. You can look-up these, non-EEA immigrants, and the general process here:
workingintheuk.gov

Last month, a new, controversial, Blue Card scheme has been touted to attract the top talents to the EU from around the world, though the UK has an opt-out. Source

The border control debate becomes ever-more interesting with the Scottish problem. As matters stand, there is no border with Scotland, yet in recent history they have had a nett decrease in population up to the last two or three years.

Scotland has increased its numbers, slightly, due in part to its 'relaxed' welcome of migrant workers. Of course, this also allows an easy route into the rest of the UK.

Yorkie, Either a free market where anyone from within the EU can go where he likes and work where he likes or not.. then we must withdraw from the EU and/or re-negotiate the whole dela..

I favour the last option myself..

Get rid of Eurocracy!!!!

i'm sure that as a whole we have a net loss for being in the EU anyway so i would tend to agree with jonjii.

not only do we get screwed on important issues (the common agricultural policy springs to mind) but it also seems as if all european countries seem to state to new EU country that we are the holy land and if they want a good job go to the UK. workpermits for everyone?

Perhaps this is an opportunity for British people to demonstrate why we are such a great nation. Has it ever occurred to anyone to work for their jobs??? If someone else (EU or not) is better qualified to do a job or can provide a service at a better rate, then it may well indicate that we're not the best people for the job.

I read recently that almost all of the most success business people in the world have had to face redundancy. What made them successful was how they dealt with difficulties. I'm fairly certain that sitting around fussing about how unfair life is, was not their solution.

Honestly. What ever happened to that British grit and determination. For those who are willing to rise to the challenge, this is a fantastic opportunity.

(Apologies if this sounds like a rant. I've just spent a day listening to colleagues complaining about how unfair it is that their careers haven't been fast tracked despite having done nothing to deserve such treatment or justifying why this would benefit anyone other than themselves)

I said it before and I'll say it again East European workers have taken up many low paid jobs that our 'lower flying' teenagers could have done or even helped students with 'work experience'.

So, this huge influx of Poles and Bulgarians have left teenagers my age walking the streets causing trouble, stealing from super-markets, defacing public places and getting drunk.

Just recently a 'special needs' friend of mine asked me sadly 'wish I 'ad a f*cking job, twenty quid a week buys f'all. I told him to go visit a brand new manual car-wash on the outskirts of town.

My friend Brandon went there and was told all the positions had been filled with Polish workers who later I found worked for just over half the minimum wage right up to head supervisor.

This is not right, it is not fair and I sincerely ask David to help indigenous students in England (Eastern european workers tend to head for England to work?) get a better work deal.

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Scrubs - well said!!! That's totally, utterly and absolutely right!!

Sorry Canvas, had 'an end of the day' moment 'my age' was superfluous.

Why are we just concentrating on EU workers?
This stupid HSMP programme is also making sure that British jobs are going to foreign nationals.
In 2007 4000 British medical doctors did not get training jobs and 1500 left the UK. This was becuase 10000 HSMP doctors from Indian subcontinent were allowed to compete with equal rights as Eu citizens. A report of 2007 recruitment suggests that every year more than 2000 British doctors will become jobless due to HSMP.
Although the DoH tried to introduce a priority scheme where UK and EU citizens will be offered the jobs first, they had to abandon this since the high courts judged in favour of the overseas doctors on 9th Nov 2007. Now the flood gates have opened and the situation is getting worse. The new point based HSMP scheme proposed by government still allows overseas doctors to get HSMP and take away the jobs from British doctors.
The situation is similar in IT jobs as well.

Dear David,
Please STOP HSMP before all British jobs go to foreign workers on HSMP.

There is plenty of quantitative evidence to prove that this is really happening. I have provided what evidence I can to Cameron, and so have many others. However, Cameron refuses to acknowledge that damage has been and continues to be done.

In truth there is not really skills shortage in the UK. There a plenty of very capable people who are either underemployed or unemployed who are excluded form consideration for these role. Their ‘crimes’ are often to be over 40 or have a family. Anyone who also has other issues such as health problems (current or in the past) or a less that spotless work and credit history stands no chance whatsoever when competing for jobs.

I believe that almost every work permit / Intra-company transfer application is fraudulent; every one of those roles could be filled by a British person. By allowing unlimited import of skilled foreign workers encourages discrimination and is causing long term damage to the British economy.

I further believe that Labour’s policy of allowing so many work permits was ‘rewarded’. This matter should also be investigated by the parliamentary ombudsman, the audit commission, or even the police.

Cameron’s unwillingness to take up this issue is very curious. Many of the people affected are traditional Conservative voters. Exposing the scandal of Labour selling British highly skilled jobs could be the knockout blow. Dear David, WHY?