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Title: Non Domicile (tax exemption) fair or unfair.?

physics911comfan

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Messages: 291
Registration date: 11/01/2007
Added: 31/10/2007 19:48
I am agueing this is fair.
It is a fine example of our (british)
constitution in action.And proves it
is alive and well.We should defend it.

yorker

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Registration date: 26/03/2007
Added: 31/10/2007 21:13
Explain, please.

physics911comfan

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Messages: 291
Registration date: 11/01/2007
Added: 31/10/2007 21:44
Well yorker

The non domicile tax exemption is based
one of the founding principles of our
British Constitution.

In that there can be
"No Taxation,Without Representation"

This I discovered thanks to smokelesses links
to the magna carter society amongst others,
on the constitution/treaty thread by vespian.

The reason I want to defend it is that if the
British Constitution is being used by foriegners
successfully.Then we Brits can use it to.

The upshot is that the principal of
"No Taxation ,Without Representation"

Means that it is illegle to charge someone
without voteing rights any tax at all,

This includes anyone under voteing age,
any one homeless,anyone who has moved in the past
six months,any one in prison,ect.ect as non have
voteing rights or representation.

Also meaning that for instance ;
If your child is under voteing age
and you send him/her to pay for the petrol
you put in your car,it is illegal to charge fuel tax.

If the same senario is used to pay for your shopping
the chargeing of VAT is illegle.
The same with power bills infact all utilities
Phone,all forms of tax can be circumvented.
Legitimatly,legally,and it is our duty not
pay these illeagal taxes ,as stated in the constitution.

This sounds like a fine law to me. :)

And rather a sticky wicket for our ;
Constitutional Parliament and its
illeagal tax aggenda.

Im for it. :)

yorker

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Registration date: 26/03/2007
Added: 31/10/2007 22:13
But you omitted to say that non-domiciles nevertheless are resident here and enjoying the protection and services that domiciled residents pay for through the tax system - i.e. they are a bunch of freeloaders. Why shouldn't they be required to contribute too?

Last edited by: yorker on 31/10/2007 22:14
physics911comfan

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Messages: 291
Registration date: 11/01/2007
Added: 31/10/2007 22:38
Envy is not a good reason
to tear up the
British Constitution
The British Bill Of Rights,
The British Declaration of Independance
The Magna Carter
The Coronation Oath Of Allegence
ect.ect

Besides they do pay their lawyers to
check the Rights of this country,and
keep these matters alive and well.

They are strangely in helping themselves
also helping us.Showing us these Rights
do exist and are still valid.

Not an entirely one way street is it.?

Living proof of our Constitution no less

physics911comfan

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Messages: 291
Registration date: 11/01/2007
Added: 01/11/2007 00:06
Besides it is us
and not they
who are not doing our duty.

The British Constitution
states clearly and unequivically that
British subjects must rise up (it is there duty)
and depose any government that imposes unfair
and illegal laws,
(which these technically are)
by tyranny and force,(we did not vote for them)
Which they have been.

Also this new eu treatise in which we pay tax to
the eu technically makes us all nondomicile ?
As we will be paying tax in another country.
I think I have got that right.
The treatise is;
Also illeagal under the british constitution.
but thats on vespians thread.

mrposhman

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Messages: 172
Registration date: 24/09/2007
Added: 01/11/2007 12:23
so if no-one pays tax, how will roads be created, schools, law be funded?

non-domiciles should pay tax in a country where they operate, as they are using the assets that country has and should therefore pay for their upkeep

Tizzy

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Registration date: 30/11/2006
Added: 02/11/2007 02:40
No taxation without representation.

A fine sentiment. Unless you're an ex-pat paying British taxes, then you get 15 years eligibility to vote in a general Election. After that, you can carry on paying UK taxes and have no vote.

physics911comfan

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Registration date: 11/01/2007
Added: 02/11/2007 06:05
mrposhman

Roads,schools,universities,law ,democracy,
All pre-date tax as do great building works,society,
medecine,hospitals ,science and cities.To name but a few
of mankinds tax free achievements.

The second point is driven by envy;
(in the guise of fair play)

Not a good reason for anything
Let alone public policy.

Certainly not something to tear up the
British Constitution over.

(for a few miserly pounds)

Encouraging philanthropy may reap better rewards.

Giving them voteing rights would also .


Tizzy (my hero) :)

"No taxation without representation"

"A fine sentiment"

Yes and the LAW. (of this land)

Your next point does show a punitive and vindictive
tax system in its hypocracy rather well. :)

My view is "Votes from Birth to Death"
Regardless of circumstances,
We are all equal,We all live here.
Keep it simple and fair.

Covers mr poshmans concerns too.(well mostly)

Am not feeling well .sorry if i seem
judgemental.love and kindness to all

mrposhman

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Registration date: 24/09/2007
Added: 02/11/2007 12:34
Quote:
Roads,schools,universities,law ,democracy,
All pre-date tax as do great building works,society,
medecine,hospitals ,science and cities.To name but a few
of mankinds tax free achievements.


Yes, this may have been the case, though times have changed, civilisations prosper and become more costly and the king can no longer pay for all his paupers unfortunately.

I'm not sure when the constitution was drawnt up as I don't know much about it but I would hasten to guess that the population has drastically increased and wages have gone up too hence the fact that everyone has to pay their way

Graham

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Registration date: 28/12/2006
Added: 02/11/2007 14:29
Totally off-topic and I'm not criticising physics911comfan, but does anyone else think his new posting style, whilst much more legible, resembles "found poetry"? ;-)

Tizzy

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Messages: 1341
Registration date: 30/11/2006
Added: 02/11/2007 20:47
Graham, Phys has opened his heart out and now feels truly free.

Or it's the drugs.

Get well soon, Phys :)

physics911comfan

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Messages: 291
Registration date: 11/01/2007
Added: 03/11/2007 17:55
Tiz true

it does look poetic

tizzy i dont do "drugs" or crime for that matter.

i did some (well lots in the past)drugs that is.
alcohol,nicotine,sugar,caffine ect no alcohol these days.
still hooked on the other three.
Its funny how some you can an some you cant is acceptable,
money rules the rules,we gets what they paid for.

Tizzy

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Messages: 1341
Registration date: 30/11/2006
Added: 03/11/2007 19:56
I was referring to the drugs for your recent illnesses, Phys!

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