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Posted by Grumtatt on Tuesday, 13 March 2007 02:45:50

Dear David,

How is it possible for your party to say that it wants to protect our environment, when at the same time you support us having Nuclear Weapons ???

Nukes don't just kill people ..... they DESTROY EVERYTHING !!!

Having a Nuclear Deterrent that you don't intend to use ........ is nothing but a waste of money. But using Nukes, even in retaliation, will only serve to end the presence of human life on this planet, and quite probably all other life forms as well !

Does ANY human have the right to EXTERMINATE ALL LIFE ?

The right to turn the ONLY PLANET WE KNOW OF that sustains Intelligent Life, into a barren, radioactive, lump of rock ?

The chances of ANY Country (except possibly America) attacking any other country with Nuclear Weapons is SO EXTREMELY REMOTE, that WASTING NEARLY ONE HUNDRED BILLION POUNDS catering for such a "microscopic" possibility, is about as sensible as demolishing and re-building all structures in the UK that aren't EARTHQUAKE PROOF !

There are HUNDREDS of Schemes in the UK and THOUSANDS throughout the World, that would benefit humanity IMMENSELY if just a fraction of that money was to be made available to them.

The more Nukes there are in existence, the greater the risk of one being set off by accident, or that one or more will be lost or stolen and find its way into "Terrorist Hands". And let's face it, the greatest risk of a nuclear threat or attack would be from a Fanatical Terror Group.

But in such a situation having Nukes of our own would be NO DETERRENT !

Firstly, Fanatical Terror Groups would mostly likely include SUICIDE BOMBERS who, far from being deterred by the threat of "Mutually Assured Destruction", would actually WELCOME the idea of DYING FOR THEIR CAUSE !

Further more "Terror Groups" are NOT Countries. So if we were to be faced by a threat or attack from one, WHO would you unleash our "Deterrent" on ? The country that most of the Terrorists came from, or the country the Group was based in, or the country from which they launched their attack, or the country the Group's Leader came from ???

Or would you just fire off our Nukes at whoever they happened to be pointing at, at the time !

History shows us that the ONLY Country that has EVER USED Nuclear Weapons against an enemy is AMERICA !

History also shows us that the ONLY Country ever to have THREATENED to use Nuclear Weapons against an enemy, is AMERICA !

History also shows us that the ONLY Country to have ever THREATENED EUROPE with Nuclear Weapons, is AMERICA !

The Country that has MORE NUCLEAR WEAPONS than anyone else, is AMERICA !

The Country that has more "WAR MAD LUNATICS" than any other Country, is AMERICA !

The proposed BRITISH Nuclear Deterrent is FAR FROM INDEPENDENT. The very Country who's "Permission" we would need in order to use it, is AMERICA, the very Country most likely to be attacking us !

Just in case you are doubting any of my quoted "facts", here are a couple of "Gems" for you.

The CURRENT Estimate for Replacing Trident and Maintaining it for its intended 10 year lifespan is 76 BILLION POUNDS. Knowing how USELESS Government Estimated Costs are (take the 2012 Olympics or the Scottish Parliament Building as examples), the TRUE COST will most likely be nearer to ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY BILLION, IF NOT MORE !

During the Cold War, when Soviet Conventional Forces lined up in Eastern Europe, GROSSLY OUTNUMBERED NATO's Conventional presence, US OFFICIAL POLICY was to DEPLOY NUCLEAR WEAPONS IN EUROPE, once the Soviets started to overwhelm Nato's forces.

So back then the USA considered that EXTERMINATING THE POPULATION OF EUROPE was an ACCEPTABLE PRICE for halting the spread of Communism !!!

So much for our "Special Relationship" !!!

If you need another "reminder" ....

Have you forgotten the stink when America built its Early Warning Radar Station at Filingdales. The station gave AMERICA an "Early Warning of Attack from the USSR", while at the same time it turned Britain into a STRATEGIC TARGET for a Nuclear Attack !

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Posted by Jimllfixitfc on Tuesday, 13 March 2007 11:16:18

Yeah do you know why - "The chances of ANY Country (except possibly America) attacking any other country with Nuclear Weapons is SO EXTREMELY REMOTE,"? - because other countries like us have got deterrants too.

if we got rid of our nuclear weapons it would force us to be even further in the pockets of america, who in your typical studenty, easy, opinion think are the soul source of evil, for protection.

Why do think that America would attack us?!

Posted by Chris1bdi on Tuesday, 13 March 2007 12:28:48

Oh ok then well let everyone walk all over us, the whole point in having a deterrent is to deter nuclear war not that the nuclear weapons will ever be used but in the event is it not a good thing to have some sort of defence, and the fact that this messes with the environment is totally irrelivant to the entire point!!!

Posted by Vespasian on Tuesday, 13 March 2007 14:18:17

I agree with the fact that on balance Strategic Nukes probably are a non-starter in this day and age, however, instead of spending the money on overseas aid I would think the best option would be to re-vamp our existing military forces.

The amount of cash released would enable the UK to bolstering up the training and equipment levels of our existing conventional forces and probably more importantly increasing the size our special forces along with the inteligence agencies. It is the un-conventional forces that would be best able to deal with overseas terror organisations (political will allowing) as their covert operating styles would be far more effective than nuking seven bells out of a country with stratigic missiles.

Our armed forces are lacking so much kit at the moment it does seem a wee bit stupid to blow the cash on something that would never be used

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