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Why don't you all come clean on the EU ordering road charging?

Posted by mkpdavies on Tuesday, 20 February 2007 11:31:02

Read the EU Directive 2004/52 (quote from page 3)
"It is necessary to provide for widespread deployment of electronic toll systems in the Member States."

Article 6: Implementation (page 16)
"Member States shall bring into force laws, regulations and administrative provisions necessary to comply with the Directive"

UKIP have commented on this. The LibLabCon-sensus have not.

1.7 million people signed the Downing Street e-petition opposing the electronic road pricing scheme. It would have been honest for Blair, Cameron and Campbell to have mentioned that the scheme is going to be imposed on them by the EU no matter what the British people think.

Why don't you come clean Mr Cameron? David Davis admitted there is nothing you can do about EU immigration, so how about some honesty here too?

Post edited by mkpdavies on Tuesday, 20 February 2007 11:34:10

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Posted by jimhook on Tuesday, 20 February 2007 12:50:38

I fail to understand why the government thinks this will work. All it will do is force people to demand higher salary increases, bump up inflation and those that simply can't get higher salaries will quit their low paid jobs and claim benefits. This in turn will start ridiculous schemes of handing out free cars, free exemption from the charges to those who 'want' to get off benefits and leaving the rest of us that work hard to foot the bill. All of us sitting in crawling traffic aren't doing it for the fun - we need to get to work and public transport is just not up to the task.

Instead of pricing us off the roads (to the detriment of the UK economy) offer incentives for us to seek alternatives, working from home, etc. Let's have some sensible solutions to the problems please!

Posted by Popple on Tuesday, 20 February 2007 18:22:33

Having read the EU directive it proposes that if repeat if member states install electronic toll systems then they should be compatable across the EU.

This means that IF the UK introduces such a system then the equipment will work with systems installed in other countries where they are present.


A parallel analogy. Eurostar trains have to be able to operate in the UK and on the continent. The railways have an agreement that Eurostar is compatable with signalling systems on both side of the channel and this is achieved by international agreements and dare I say "Directives"! This directive also applies to the operation of international freight trains. For each rail system to be different would be a great disadvantage.

Posted by DaveGould on Tuesday, 20 February 2007 18:37:51

What's their to come clean about? This is about harmonisation of road tolls. It doesn't mean you have to introduce road tolls.

UKIP are lying again.

Posted by mkpdavies on Friday, 23 February 2007 14:10:54

Not sure which part of

(5) It is necessary to provide for the widespread deployment of electronic toll systems in the
Member States and neighbouring countries, and the need is arising to have interoperable
systems suited to the future development of road-charging policy at Community level and to
future technical developments.

You don't understand.

It?
Is?
Necessary?

There is none so blind, as those that won't see.

Posted by Henry2 on Wednesday, 28 February 2007 22:41:56

(5) It is necessary to provide for the widespread deployment of electronic toll systems in the
Member States and neighbouring countries, and the need is arising to have interoperable
systems suited to the future development of road-charging policy at Community level and to
future technical developments.

It is necessary to provide for the widespread deployment of electronic toll systems in neighbouring countries. So all the EU is saying is that they think that electronic toll systems will be introduced and would it not be a good idea if the systems were compatible.

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