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Should Blair be tried on his domestic or international crimes first?

Posted by DavidBodden on Monday, 19 February 2007 09:20:46

Blair has, allegedly, committed crimes against the people of this country with all his lies, corruption, taxation, etc. He also stands accused of war crimes and there are calls that he stands trial in an international court.

Which of these should he face first: domestic or international?

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Posted by spivver on Monday, 19 February 2007 09:44:45

His International crimes, no doubt in my mind. His lies have been evident.

Posted by Stjimmy on Monday, 19 February 2007 10:50:29

Make him stand trial, for the innocent of Iraq!

Posted by Zambuca1 on Monday, 19 February 2007 11:31:31

Hes not the only one.

Fire them all, the lords, the parliament, the minister, every single 1 of them

Fire them and have relections,

Its now evident, people can little trust, government, the press, corporations, the law, or BANKS.

Also, Cheney, and almost all US presidents should be put with him on trial. Including any leaders who supported terrorising there people and other countries. There are too many to list at the moment.

Murdoch all other corporate media dickheads should be tried, for propaganda for the War in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Fire them all, and put them all on trial and hold relections.

Posted by TonyTT on Monday, 19 February 2007 19:54:05

The ICC can only try people who are from a part of the world where there is no judicial system capable of trying them, i.e. Rwanda, Liberia and the former Yugoslavia (and I think Saddam Hussein should have been tried by the ICC).

There is no legal avenue available for Tony Bair to be tried by the ICC. If he has be accused and charged of a crime (whether domestic or international in scope) then it would be done here in the UK.

Posted by Fleetliner on Friday, 02 March 2007 14:57:48

Bush and his buttplug Blair should be hanged... in front of millions of TV viewers across the world, the same way Saddam was, its now up to the people to take back control of their countries from rouge goverments.

They take your rights away, they lie to us, they steal money from us, they start wars for us.... it's just a long list of them standing all over us and wasting our taxes, giving us nothing back but crap, I don't think David Cameron and the Tories will be any better for the people of this country either, this country does not need another YES MAN in charge, it needs a new political approach that represents the people and works for the people, not starting wars and endangering the people.

Posted by IAmNoOne on Saturday, 03 March 2007 16:26:54

Posted by Fleetliner on Friday, 02 March 2007 14:57:48
it needs a new political approach that represents the people and works for the people

Unfortunately, while our country (and most others, sadly) are ruled by bankers this will never change. We have the technology to have more "direct democracy" - if it can be employed to implant us all with microchips to ultimately control our spending and to charge us for every blade of grass we walk on, then it could just as easily be used for the GOOD of the people, as opposed to being used for the good of the 0.000000001% who sit at the top of the pile. In the words of Lord Josiah Stamp, former Director of the Bank of England, in 1940:

"The bankers own the earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create money, and with the flick of a pen they will create enough money to buy it back again. However, take away from them the power to create money, and all the great fortunes like mine will disappear, and they OUGHT to disappear, for this would be a happier and better world to live in. But, if you wish to remain the slaves of bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, let them continue to create money."

This is ultimately what is at the root of society's problems. Very few people realise that the Bank of England is a privately owned bank. Very few people realise that the reason taxes are so high (and will never come down!!) in this country (and others) is because of this banking scam. What happens is, the government allows the BoE to create money and then borrows from the bank at interest - which WE, the taxpayer pay back! Of course, we are NEVER consulted - and of course the Bank never refuses a loan! The stupid thing is, the government has the authority to print all the debt-free money it wants - but it gave away that right in 1694. And even now, all it would take is for one Prime Minister to have some balls and to sign into law the abolition of fractional reserve banking and confiscate all the fortunes made by the owners of the Central Banks. Of course, I won't be holding my breath! Quite simply, politicians today are owned like the rest of us, and they do what they are told!

If anyone hasn't seen The Money Masters: How International Bankers Gained Control Of America, there are few history lessons quite as important, in light of the direction modern politics is unquestionably taking:

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-8753934454816686947&q;=money+masters
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-2665915773877500927&q;=money+masters

Another documovie which is most enlightening is Aaron Russo's America: From Freedom To Fascism. Remember, whatever happens in America happens here too, and whatever happens here happens in America as well. We're joined at the hip with the USA and we always will be.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4312730277175242198

Society has been scammed on a massive scale. Our whole lives are now based on debt, and most people don't even realise, to the point where people don't even consider a mortgage a debt. "It's an investment" they say; and they maintain that right up until they default and realise that until you make that very last payment you don't own a single brick!!! We have been conditioned to accept a life of debt, because quite simply debt = control. Even our money system is a debt based money system - when it has no need to be. But it will never change, until people wake up to the fact that the Bank of England is a private institution, ran for the private profit of a tiny few people.

We need to remember that these people who own us don't live in the same society that we do. They don't care about us, they never have and they never will. They live on country estates and move around in chauffeur driven cars or in helicopters or private planes. They aren't affected by congestion, or the ever-rising cost of living. They aren't affected by wars or poverty. So they don't care. They don't care if we live or die. That shows in Bliar's behaviour, and Bushs behaviour, making free with the lives of 3/4 of a million Iraqis and then casually lying about it. They don't CARE, these politicians; get used to it. As it stands, democracy has never existed and it never will. We have the technology to MAKE democracy, but it's not likely, because quite simply and very sadly, too many people would rather watch Big Brother and Changing Rooms than learn the history of this country and others and find out just how cynical our lords and masters really are.